Monday, September 22, 2008

Journal #4

What does Bartholomae mean when he says that students must “invent the university” when they write in college? 
What Bartholomae means when he says that students must "invent the university" when the write in college is that, he wants that person to speak that language I guess of a college student.  He also wants that person to be able to evaluate, select, report and conclude of what goes on in the community in college.  There are things like a specialized discourse and they have to do it as though they were easily and comfortably in with the audience on it.  Bartholomae basically wants you to understand how to write and how to get the gist of what goes on and how to do it.  It's not easy to write in college.  In the beginning students must and should try to set up habits of mind, rituals and also phrases that will help them.

What does Bartholomae suggest is a way for students to become “insiders” within academic discourse?
Bartholomae wants students to become "insiders" within academic discourse by, being able to imagine themselves the privilege of being the "insiders" and that is possible he's saying by being established and granted a special right to speak.  The right to speak that Bartholomae is saying is, seldom conferred upon people of anyone, even teachers and students.  He wants students to believe that they are responsible for something new or old, it is about inventing a new language that is new so that everyone else can learn it.  

 Summarize some of the differences between the two examples of student writing that Bartholomae examines, and Bartholomae’s opinion of these examples.
The differences between the examples of the writing from the students and Bartholomae's opinion are, the first one talks about how one teammate changes the trend of what the team is wearing all the time to what he thinks is better.  The second paper is about a kid who loved music so much that the kid ended playing the guitar and the clarinet.  The kid felt that writing his own songs from creativity was better then copying others which don't do any good.  The kid also talked about how he felt about being more creative.  He would use the word composers would call it "inspiration" which to this kid definitely helped for this kid in the long run.  Bartholomae's opinion on the first paper was, he did not think that this was an elegant paper at all.  He also said that here the discourse was natural.  He also said that the text should be watched because it continually refers to its own language and to the language of others.  Bartholomae's other opinion on the second paper was, that the writer is consistently and dramatically conscious of herself forming something to say.  He also thinks that when she said what she thought was "creativity" however she now calls "imitation" that she was not creative at all.  He says that the writer of this essay goes against the language that keeps going on to another name.

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